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*Quiet whisper*
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(heartbeat)
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(heartbeat gets faster)
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*door squeaks*
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So you're the one
that we have forgotten.
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An unfortunate mistake...
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... which we are now correcting.
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Have you ever had a nightmare?
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Now imagine
you wake up...
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...and the nightmare continues.
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Keep going, don't stop.
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Welcome to my life.
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*bang*
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* (chorus)
One people! A guide! *
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* ... to plead guilty
or not guilty. *
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Is something growing there yet?
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Oh, that's you.
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Who am I?
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The young reporter
who survived Auschwitz.
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And.
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I am.
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Ernst Michel.
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I am a special rapporteur
for the DANA news agency.
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Willy Brandt,
Correspondent for Arbeiterbladet.
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'ne Osloer Zeitung.
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I live in Norway.
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Since when?
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April 1933.
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Jude?
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Politically persecuted.
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I'm pleased.
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Why are you doing this to yourself?
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What exactly?
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The process.
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Do you want to see them hanging?
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I want to understand why.
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That's why we are
probably everyone here.
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Your card please. Sorry.
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The fact is:
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I am a Holocaust
and Auschwitz survivor,
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who was born in Germany
and grew up.
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And now I was there
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als die obersten Nazis
were brought to court.
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For that alone
survival was worth it.
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The Nuremberg Trials
were for my father throughout his life
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incredibly important.
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He always has himself
seen in this room.
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How he had to hold back
so as not to jump up,
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to grab every Nazi
and shouting at:
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Why did you kill my father
my mother?
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Why did you do all this?
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He was so young.
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A 22 year old boy,
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of all these years
suffered terrible things.
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It's really strange
to sit in this hall.
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The photos with exactly these windows
here to my left,
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I've known them since my childhood.
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I want my father to know
that I'm sitting right here right now,
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where he was then.
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I waited 674 days.
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674 days in Auschwitz.
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Do I want to see her hanging?
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Nuremberg was the first time
in history,
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that remaining leaders of one
country were brought to justice.
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Simply unbelievable.
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Crazy.
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I left six months ago
escaped from a concentration camp.
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Now I'm sitting here as a reporter
and the top Nazis over there,
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not eight meters away from me.
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Goering.
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Hess, Keitel.
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Kaltenbrunner, strings.
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Every 22nd
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I thought I was dreaming.
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* (original sound)
The instructions were given: *
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* In the workroom
of the operational groups *
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* in Russian territory
the Jews were to be liquidated. *
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* By that I mean kill. *
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* Yes indeed. *
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Hitler was dead. Himmler was dead.
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Only these were left.
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The most important was Göring.
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And I look at him.
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This man was directly involved
in everything that is given to me,
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my family and all Jews
has done in Europe.
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And now I'm sitting here,
but as a reporter.
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My feelings
are not allowed to play in.
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I have to remain objective.
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So, Junior?
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It's all a bit much, isn't it?
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I don't know if I can do that.
They say you have talent.
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This is Bill Stricker, my boss.
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He comes from New York,
actually from Vienna,
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and was formerly called Wolfgang Streicher.
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But which Jew?
still want to be called Streicher?
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You can do this.
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How?
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That's how everyone feels here,
even the really big ones.
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Hmm.
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You survived Auschwitz.
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Nobody has gone through
what you've been through.
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Nobody knows what you know.
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This is cruel
but it is also an opportunity.
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Your chance.
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A nice description for:
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“Don’t screw it up.
You're still on probation."
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What awaits the Ohlendorf pig?
to win with his statement?
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He'll hang anyway.
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A farce, this process.
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I am the rightful successor
of the leader.
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With me would have
the US President must negotiate
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the way it is
belongs among men of honor.
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And anyway...
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What does a court have?
for legitimacy,
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that the laws first write themselves,
on which it makes the accusation?
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Ridiculous.
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But the winner
is always the judge.
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And the loser is the defendant.
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You make a serious effort
for a fair trial.
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Fair?
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Yes.
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The charges are serious.
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Very difficult.
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I didn't know anything about them
Horrible things in the concentration camps.
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I would have stopped that.
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As your lawyer, I will do everything
within my power,
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about the allegations against you
to refute.
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Of course you do.
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Even if the judgments
already determined - it doesn't matter.
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One day...
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... becomes history
prove me right.
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My bones
will lie in a marble coffin
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and everywhere in Germany
There will be Göring monuments.
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The big ones in the parks...
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... and the little ones
in the living rooms.
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Seweryna Szmaglewska.
Sorry for my delay.
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Stanislaw Piotrowski,
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Prosecutor and member
the Polish delegation.
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Are the others there already?
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They're still sleeping.
The night was long.
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Or short, as the case may be.
Is the process so absorbing?
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Not directly.
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A ball.
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What?
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Until the early hours of the morning,
wonderful.
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Did you celebrate here?
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Yes, everyone,
even the presiding judge.
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Ms. Szmaglewska
is a witness at the military tribunal.
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Please show her to her room.
- Naturally.
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If the lady wants to follow me.
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Should I follow him?
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You want to be sure
freshen up?
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Yes, but he is German.
Oh.
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They're literally falling over themselves here
before submissiveness.
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You'll see.
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So please...
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This way, please.
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The first house on the site.
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The guest book is full of names
of the most distinguished heads of Europe.
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And here...
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This is room 23.
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Mr. Reichsmarschall Göring
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always resided here
during the Nazi party rallies.
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1939, when the Nazis
invaded Poland,
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My mother still has it
Studied psychology.
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But she already has too
started writing.
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Shortly afterwards, in 1940, she...
connected to the resistor.
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That was the reason
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why they are arresting them
and brought to Auschwitz.
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Well, here we are.
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* drumbeat *
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The bathroom is on the left...
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* (distorted)
... with bathtub. *
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Thanks.
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If the madam
have a wish, she can...
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It's okay, thank you very much.
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Madam?
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* drumbeat *
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Is everything OK?
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Thank you,
I just need some rest.
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Of course.
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If there's anything else I can do,
don't hesitate...
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You think I'm crazy,
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because I'm under the bed
looking for Nazis?
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The Germans
are not suddenly safe,
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just because they now
carry the suitcases.
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If you come to Auschwitz today,
you can still see it
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the huge entrance gate
with the infamous inscription:
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"Work sets you free".
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Even if Auschwitz
was considered a concentration camp:
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It was above all
a place of destruction.
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Mainly destruction
the Jewish population of Europe.
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Political prisoners like my mother
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had one
slightly higher chance of survival.
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It has almost 1000 days
survived in this place.
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That didn't happen often.
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You get enough time
for your statement.
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Yes, but for how long?
A day? Two?
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Or a whole week?
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I have to prepare myself.
I don't know it.
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How much time does the court have?
planned for this?
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I don't know. Nobody knows that.
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The accusation is supported
on documents as evidence.
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On documents? Yes.
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Lots of documents.
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Millions of pages.
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Irrefutable evidence,
who will convict the perpetrators.
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But it's something else,
whether you read documents out loud
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or whether you hear from someone
what it was like in the camp that was there.
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Don't worry,
the Nazis were very thorough.
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Everything is really documented.
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Also what it's like when she
stab someone with a needle
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and rub ink into the wounds?
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When you go from being a person to being a number?
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You feel death everywhere
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and smells
burned human flesh.
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Excuse me.
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There's nothing you can do about it.
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No, it's okay.
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Have a good meal.
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What am I actually doing here?
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You have so much to say
and then suddenly realizes:
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Your own statement
is just a kind of addition
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to documents or other statements.
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That must be pretty frustrating
have been.
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I'm sure of that.
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* (original sound)
Hermann Wilhelm Goering. *
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* I confess in the sense
not guilty of the charge. *
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* Rudolf Hess. *
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* No. *
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* Joachim von Ribbentrop. *
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* Not guilty. *
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* Not guilty. *
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* Not guilty.
- I am not guilty in any way. *
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And I look at her,
every single day,
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as they sit there in the courtroom.
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Most were arrogant.
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Not cooperative.
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"Not guilty."
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Not guilty.
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Not guilty.
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Every single one of them.
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* Menacing roar *
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Seriously.
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It was clear to everyone: sooner or later
you hit the gas.
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That was so safe
like going to sleep at night.
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If you could.
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I was killed by an SS man
hit on the head.
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The wound has become infected
and festered.
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I am
went to the infirmary,
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but you definitely didn't want to
stay overnight.
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Everyone knew that selection was taking place there
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and then we go to Birkenau,
into the gas chamber.
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Does anyone here have one?
good handwriting?
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So I got in touch.
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Maybe that's how I get it
to eat more.
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Here.
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Write:
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physical weakness and heart failure.
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Again.
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Good.
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You survived,
because you have beautiful handwriting?
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Perhaps.
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In the late 30s there was for us
Nothing to do to Jews in Germany.
271
00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:33,380
We sat at home
and waited to see what happened.
272
00:19:33,660 --> 00:19:34,940
My father forced me
273
00:19:35,180 --> 00:19:37,380
a calligraphy course
to do.
274
00:19:37,660 --> 00:19:38,780
So calligraphy.
275
00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:43,140
He said: Do that.
You never know what it's good for.
276
00:19:44,300 --> 00:19:46,460
That saved my life.
277
00:19:48,580 --> 00:19:51,140
You wrote the death lists.
278
00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:56,460
Could you with someone
talk about it?
279
00:19:57,020 --> 00:19:57,980
With whom?
280
00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:06,220
By every... name,
that I wrote
281
00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:10,020
I swore to myself
never to forget him.
282
00:20:11,060 --> 00:20:13,220
You have the stories inside you.
283
00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:15,020
Come on, next try.
284
00:20:18,420 --> 00:20:21,940
"Out! Everyone line up!
The march will begin immediately.
285
00:20:24,180 --> 00:20:28,220
Under the beating of the SS guards
the march is taking place.
286
00:20:28,940 --> 00:20:31,540
Often, in the difficult times
in the warehouse,
287
00:20:31,780 --> 00:20:34,300
has me hope
maintained.
288
00:20:34,620 --> 00:20:37,980
The hope that too
the culprits of this regime
289
00:20:38,220 --> 00:20:40,780
once to take responsibility
would be drawn.
290
00:20:41,060 --> 00:20:44,300
Der Glaube daran
gave me the strength to endure."
291
00:20:53,020 --> 00:20:56,980
292
00:21:07,660 --> 00:21:08,660
Good morning
293
00:21:08,940 --> 00:21:09,820
Morning.
294
00:21:13,580 --> 00:21:15,100
Your article yesterday.
295
00:21:18,940 --> 00:21:19,900
Was?
296
00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:23,020
Respect.
297
00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:29,420
Thanks.
298
00:21:35,660 --> 00:21:40,500
299
00:21:51,940 --> 00:21:54,820
Of course.
That's a possibility.
300
00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:55,940
We're happy about that.
301
00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:23,060
You too?
302
00:22:26,420 --> 00:22:27,420
Jewish too?
303
00:22:27,660 --> 00:22:29,100
Polish resistance.
304
00:22:31,740 --> 00:22:33,060
What are you doing here?
305
00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:35,420
I will testify as a witness.
306
00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:36,620
You too?
307
00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:38,020
I'm a reporter.
308
00:22:38,820 --> 00:22:40,060
*door squeaks*
309
00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:41,860
Please come with me.
310
00:22:43,460 --> 00:22:44,460
All the best.
311
00:22:45,020 --> 00:22:46,140
Thank you too.
312
00:22:50,340 --> 00:22:55,180
My mother was able to in January '45
fleeing during a death march
313
00:22:55,420 --> 00:22:59,820
and immediately began recalling her memories
to write down to the camp.
314
00:23:07,460 --> 00:23:11,940
We know the book today
the title “Smoke over Birkenau”.
315
00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:14,860
She wrote it extremely quickly.
316
00:23:15,140 --> 00:23:18,340
It has already been
released in December '45.
317
00:23:23,780 --> 00:23:28,060
The crucial thing:
It is not fiction, not a novel.
318
00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:37,460
It is a documentary text
about the experiences,
319
00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:40,300
which they as prisoners
did in the concentration camp.
320
00:23:51,140 --> 00:23:54,660
It's so detailed
and yet written so objectively,
321
00:23:54,940 --> 00:23:58,900
that you have her as a witness
invited to the Nuremberg trials.
322
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:13,820
Every now and then my editor would ask me to
323
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:16,340
a personal story
to write.
324
00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:18,900
As a person affected, as a survivor.
325
00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:31,860
The Nazis had invaded Poland.
326
00:24:32,140 --> 00:24:34,100
On September 1, 1939.
327
00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:36,100
I was 16 then.
328
00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:40,820
We were put in first
brought from ten or eleven camps.
329
00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:45,740
First forced labor camp,
then concentration camp,
330
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,660
finally Auschwitz,
the extermination camp.
331
00:25:01,420 --> 00:25:02,380
Everyone out!
332
00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:06,420
You knew immediately: This is different.
333
00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:09,060
Not just a labor camp.
334
00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:11,180
And that's how it was.
335
00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:14,180
Come on!
336
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:16,420
Pure chaos.
337
00:25:16,780 --> 00:25:19,740
Dogs that love people
have jumped on.
338
00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:20,980
punches. Force.
339
00:25:21,380 --> 00:25:22,540
It was hell.
340
00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:25,820
And in the air
there was a strange smell.
341
00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:28,300
No idea what it was.
342
00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:30,340
Such a sweet smell.
343
00:25:31,260 --> 00:25:35,780
We came to an SS man
an impressive leather uniform.
344
00:25:36,060 --> 00:25:38,860
Dr. Mengele,
as I later found out.
345
00:25:39,340 --> 00:25:40,500
He just did like this:
346
00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:44,580
Thumbs up to the left,
Thumbs down to the right.
347
00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:47,660
The women
they were taken away immediately.
348
00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:50,300
Not a single woman survived.
349
00:25:50,540 --> 00:25:52,940
That was my arrival in Auschwitz.
350
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:25,700
I knew
there was a 1, there was a 9,
351
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:30,420
but during my childhood I could
I never remember his numbers.
352
00:26:30,660 --> 00:26:33,100
I have that
simply not allowed.
353
00:26:41,540 --> 00:26:43,300
You are the lucky ones.
354
00:26:43,660 --> 00:26:46,260
The others are already up in the chimney.
355
00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:56,180
Anyone who can work can live.
356
00:26:56,420 --> 00:26:58,540
Anyone who can no longer work...
357
00:27:16,180 --> 00:27:18,020
*cheers*
358
00:27:22,380 --> 00:27:26,220
Should be mine in this fight
something will happen now,
359
00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:31,340
then is my first successor
Party comrade Göring.
360
00:27:39,260 --> 00:27:43,580
Appeared in his fantasy uniform
The man in the courtroom today
361
00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:47,500
in the witness stand, which lasts until
wanted to fight the last Germans.
362
00:27:47,780 --> 00:27:49,580
The man who created the concentration camps.
363
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:53,220
Accused No. 1,
Hermann Goering.
364
00:27:55,860 --> 00:27:57,780
* (Original sound) You ask me: *
365
00:27:58,060 --> 00:28:01,860
* I felt it was necessary
held to set up concentration camps, *
366
00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:05,060
* about the opposition
to turn it off there? *
367
00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:07,540
* That's right. *
368
00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:15,620
My entire youth
was influenced by this time
369
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:19,300
and Göring was one
of the most present Nazi leaders.
370
00:28:21,860 --> 00:28:25,500
* Only he is a Reich citizen
Citizens of German blood *
371
00:28:25,780 --> 00:28:30,580
* or related blood,
who proves through his behavior: *
372
00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:33,060
*He is willing and able,*
373
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:36,460
* in loyalty to the German people
and to serve richly. *
374
00:28:38,660 --> 00:28:43,540
* Marriages between Jews
and German nationals *
375
00:28:43,780 --> 00:28:46,780
* or related blood
are forbidden. *
376
00:28:54,340 --> 00:28:56,860
I haven't forgotten anything,
nothing at all.
377
00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:11,900
There is far too much to tell.
378
00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:16,340
Nervous waiting.
379
00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:19,820
Meanwhile
my mother thought:
380
00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:22,420
What can I do?
in a short time say
381
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:24,820
in which I am on the witness stand?
382
00:29:25,060 --> 00:29:27,820
Should I try
to remain objective?
383
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,980
Or can I too
tell personal things,
384
00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:33,700
what I felt
what I saw?
385
00:29:52,380 --> 00:29:56,140
386
00:30:13,540 --> 00:30:17,980
My mother and my father
Both were students before the war.
387
00:30:18,260 --> 00:30:20,700
They became friends,
very close friends,
388
00:30:20,980 --> 00:30:22,340
but not lovers.
389
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:25,980
When she then
met again in the concentration camp,
390
00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:28,100
it was like a miracle for her:
391
00:30:28,380 --> 00:30:30,260
In such a terrible place
392
00:30:30,540 --> 00:30:33,780
to meet a familiar soul,
was a sign.
393
00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:36,020
They could have a future.
394
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:37,860
Los!
395
00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:41,020
Pst!
396
00:30:47,620 --> 00:30:49,980
*kicks*
397
00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:52,900
(Moan)
398
00:30:58,380 --> 00:30:59,340
Further!
399
00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:08,100
Faster! Move.
400
00:31:13,820 --> 00:31:14,780
*knock*
401
00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:18,540
Not today.
402
00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:27,980
My mother was told
403
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:33,220
that they immediately upon their arrival in
Nuremberg would testify as a witness.
404
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:35,380
But that didn't happen.
405
00:31:56,020 --> 00:31:57,780
I'm still freaking out here.
406
00:31:58,060 --> 00:32:00,180
This waiting is driving you crazy.
407
00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:03,820
It's no better in there.
408
00:32:05,260 --> 00:32:08,460
They're sitting there
as if none of this was any of her business.
409
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:10,940
Not ten meters away from me.
410
00:32:11,540 --> 00:32:14,260
Goering is joking,
the others laugh.
411
00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:17,380
And they should
get a fair trial.
412
00:32:17,660 --> 00:32:20,820
I just want it
get behind me.
413
00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:33,300
Tell me, Witold Wisniewski,
Witteck...
414
00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:35,420
Does the name mean anything to you?
415
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:36,860
Was he in Monowitz?
416
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:39,020
In Birkenau in a construction crew.
417
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:41,660
He certainly had too
to do in Monowitz.
418
00:32:41,940 --> 00:32:42,780
Never heard of it.
419
00:32:44,620 --> 00:32:45,580
I'm sorry.
420
00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:48,340
Why don't you testify as a witness?
421
00:32:48,620 --> 00:32:49,620
I'm a reporter.
422
00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:52,820
Yes, but it's important.
423
00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:03,060
424
00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:08,740
Good morning
425
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:16,740
Not bad.
426
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:27,340
Special rapporteur...
427
00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:32,380
Prisoner number 104...
428
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:35,260
... 99 ...
429
00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:37,220
...5.
430
00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:39,740
Who is that supposed to be?
431
00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:42,540
Göring wanted to know:
432
00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:44,220
Who is the man...
433
00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:47,140
Auschwitz 104995.
434
00:33:48,340 --> 00:33:51,860
... as a special correspondent
who DANA writes for?
435
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,340
Who is this man?
436
00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:56,220
A very young reporter.
437
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:57,420
Ernst Michel.
438
00:33:58,620 --> 00:34:01,100
He sits in the courtroom every day.
439
00:34:03,380 --> 00:34:05,220
An Auschwitz survivor?
440
00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:07,300
What does he want here?
441
00:34:07,580 --> 00:34:11,140
He can answer the question for you
probably just answer it yourself.
442
00:34:11,540 --> 00:34:14,060
I like the way you think.
443
00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:21,020
Mr Michel!
444
00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:25,940
Otto Stahmer, I'm pleased.
445
00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:27,020
Good evening.
446
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:28,500
They work long hours.
447
00:34:29,580 --> 00:34:31,060
Apparently you do too.
448
00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:35,620
Would you like a beer?
449
00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:37,140
Cheers.
450
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:48,660
I've wanted to for a long time
interview one of the defense attorneys.
451
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,180
Then start
and I ask my question back.
452
00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:54,260
Thanks.
453
00:34:55,940 --> 00:34:59,460
How come you
Defend Hermann Göring?
454
00:34:59,780 --> 00:35:03,220
My name was on a list,
which was presented to him.
455
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,340
I was probably the only one
who he knew. From where?
456
00:35:06,620 --> 00:35:07,420
No idea.
457
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:10,540
I was never in the party
458
00:35:10,820 --> 00:35:14,060
and have little
with National Socialism at work.
459
00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:19,900
Many of the other defenders
are more likely to be... predisposed?
460
00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:24,340
Maybe he has you
deliberately chosen, for tactics?
461
00:35:30,260 --> 00:35:31,420
Quite possible.
462
00:35:33,940 --> 00:35:36,740
What is your name
got on the list?
463
00:35:38,140 --> 00:35:41,300
You would have to be the representative
of the victorious powers ask.
464
00:35:41,580 --> 00:35:43,940
I was asked
and I said yes.
465
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:46,180
Did you want to defend Nazis?
466
00:35:48,740 --> 00:35:49,980
No, Mr. Michel.
467
00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:52,060
I want to make a contribution
468
00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:54,980
for restoration
the rule of law.
469
00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:59,540
By defending Goering?
The rule of law applies to everyone.
470
00:36:00,340 --> 00:36:03,460
You write too
with great objectivity,
471
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:06,340
although intended for you
is different.
472
00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:13,860
What did you want me for?
actually ask?
473
00:36:14,860 --> 00:36:18,460
474
00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:23,300
My client
would like to get to know you.
475
00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:28,500
Was?
476
00:36:28,780 --> 00:36:32,460
Mr. Göring reads everyone
Your most interested article.
477
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:36,420
And he wonders who this is
is a former Auschwitz prisoner,
478
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:38,060
who can write like that.
479
00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:43,180
I should ask you
whether you visit him in his cell.
480
00:36:55,540 --> 00:36:56,500
And?
481
00:36:57,460 --> 00:37:01,260
He still needs a little time.
You should convince him.
482
00:37:01,540 --> 00:37:02,340
Even.
483
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:04,500
Convince. Don't force it.
484
00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:06,860
That takes time sometimes.
485
00:37:08,380 --> 00:37:11,100
The main thing is
You don't disappoint me.
486
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:22,900
What are you doing with my bag?
I took care of her.
487
00:37:23,140 --> 00:37:25,340
I put them there especially.
488
00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:28,660
They are
Your process documents.
489
00:37:28,940 --> 00:37:31,020
I know that
it's my bag.
490
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:34,140
You can't do that
just leave it lying around.
491
00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:37,540
Seweryna,
You don't have to be afraid anymore.
492
00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:38,620
It's over.
493
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:42,060
Listen, it's late.
494
00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:43,940
See you tomorrow, okay?
495
00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:59,180
496
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,860
It's not just over.
497
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:29,300
Pst!
498
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:36,380
I thought,
the SS man beats you to death.
499
00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:39,460
No.
500
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:41,860
Then he would have gotten in trouble.
501
00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:47,220
Architects
are hard to come by right now.
502
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:52,540
I love your Smile.
503
00:38:54,260 --> 00:38:57,020
How do you want to know
that I smile?
504
00:38:59,060 --> 00:39:00,060
I feel that.
505
00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:14,060
If we survive this...
We will.
506
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:16,660
... then we will both get married.
507
00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:18,660
Wait a moment! Wait a moment!
508
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:21,020
The man has to make the proposal.
509
00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:23,220
Yes, good. Well then.
510
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:31,900
Severyna Szmaglewska.
511
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:37,100
Do you want to be my wife?
512
00:39:40,060 --> 00:39:41,020
Yes, I want.
513
00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:44,780
Yes, I want.
514
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:48,940
Good, then that's sorted out.
515
00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:53,780
We just have to survive.
516
00:40:12,460 --> 00:40:14,220
This helps with survival.
517
00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:22,220
Thank you.
518
00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:33,180
This is the sketchbook
my mother.
519
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:35,940
To this day it is a mystery to me
520
00:40:36,220 --> 00:40:40,060
how she did it
to smuggle it out of the camp.
521
00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:45,900
She has several scenes in it
detained from the camp.
522
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:55,380
The most enigmatic picture
is that of two prisoners.
523
00:40:55,900 --> 00:41:00,460
A man and a woman
on both sides of the barbed wire.
524
00:41:09,220 --> 00:41:12,620
In my mother's mind
is that something like
525
00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:17,540
an idealized representation of her
encounter and their promise.
526
00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:22,540
Because while he clearly
wearing prisoner clothing,
527
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:27,420
my mother is beautifully dressed
and has long, well-groomed hair.
528
00:41:28,780 --> 00:41:32,380
I think that's what she wanted
appear in his eyes.
529
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:44,500
* (distorted) I confess to
Not guilty as charged. *
530
00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:50,860
* I confess in the sense
not guilty of the charge. *
531
00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:02,540
Why does he want to meet me?
532
00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:08,220
Morning.
533
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:10,620
Mr Michel!
534
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:11,780
One moment.
535
00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:19,020
They are yesterday
broke up very suddenly. Yes.
536
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:20,580
I'm sorry.
537
00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:22,140
No problem.
538
00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:25,260
But you still owe me
the answer.
539
00:42:28,260 --> 00:42:31,300
Can we about it
talk again later?
540
00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:36,980
Of course, yes.
541
00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:38,420
Thanks.
542
00:42:41,740 --> 00:42:44,900
* (Original sound) It was
from the prosecutor *
543
00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:48,420
* an affidavit
mentioned, *
544
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:51,580
* which has the number GB 255
got. *
545
00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:58,700
* I can do this under oath
Insurance neither in the trial letter *
546
00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:01,620
* still in the document book
to find. *
547
00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:04,940
* I please
the prosecutor therefore, *
548
00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:09,380
* that I am given this affidavit
Insurance is presented. *
549
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:11,660
I think he came every day.
550
00:43:11,940 --> 00:43:14,620
Yes, I really believe
he was there every day.
551
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:18,900
I'm finishing work.
552
00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:21,540
I need a little more.
Take your time.
553
00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:25,340
Whether you today or tomorrow
finish... What happened?
554
00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:27,300
Nothing, that's the problem.
555
00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:30,340
Is the most important process
of world history,
556
00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:32,900
and soon
no one cares anymore.
557
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:33,980
Me already.
558
00:43:34,540 --> 00:43:37,020
The people in the courtroom are sleeping.
559
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:40,860
We need something
which wakes up newspaper readers.
560
00:43:41,140 --> 00:43:42,100
Some scoop.
561
00:43:42,380 --> 00:43:44,820
An interview
with one of the defendants?
562
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,060
Nice try,
but who wants to hear that?
563
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:50,580
They cheered for them
when they believed in the final victory,
564
00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:52,060
but they lost.
565
00:43:52,340 --> 00:43:53,300
Yes. Fortunately.
566
00:43:53,580 --> 00:43:56,700
But now no one wants it anymore
have to do with them.
567
00:43:56,980 --> 00:43:58,340
They were never Nazis either.
568
00:43:58,620 --> 00:44:01,540
They want to forget
and not be reminded of it.
569
00:44:01,820 --> 00:44:05,300
We're not doing them that favor.
That has until tomorrow.
570
00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:06,940
So call it a day.
571
00:44:11,740 --> 00:44:13,620
Do you think she is guilty?
572
00:44:15,580 --> 00:44:17,380
The Germans, I mean.
573
00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:24,140
For my school friends
I was suddenly breathless
574
00:44:24,420 --> 00:44:26,180
from one day to the next.
575
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:28,860
I became
kicked out of the soccer team,
576
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:29,980
from school.
577
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:37,460
Nobody helped me.
578
00:44:38,460 --> 00:44:40,980
Not everyone
has the power to resist.
579
00:44:41,260 --> 00:44:43,060
Many of them left too.
580
00:44:43,660 --> 00:44:47,060
But are those who remained
therefore accomplices?
581
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:51,620
Why do you ask?
582
00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:54,780
Because I'm busy
where guilt begins.
583
00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:57,740
Who is actually guilty?
584
00:44:58,060 --> 00:44:59,740
The one in the dock?
585
00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:02,340
The 70,000 on the wanted lists?
586
00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:05,900
Or just everyone?
587
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:09,460
Good night.
588
00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:26,540
*cheers*
589
00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:36,380
Every single Nazi
was like a puzzle piece,
590
00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:39,220
that the whole thing
made it work.
591
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:42,300
But my father
told me all my life,
592
00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:44,980
that he doesn't accuse the Germans.
593
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:46,620
He has forgiven them.
594
00:45:46,860 --> 00:45:49,460
His whole life
he assured me:
595
00:45:49,740 --> 00:45:51,700
I won't live with hate.
596
00:45:51,980 --> 00:45:54,660
Because the hate
would eat up my life.
597
00:45:54,940 --> 00:45:58,660
The criminals should pay
but the people don't have to.
598
00:45:58,900 --> 00:45:59,740
He said:
599
00:46:00,260 --> 00:46:04,620
I'm glad I'm evil
can let go without hating.
600
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:07,540
That was his mantra.
601
00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:09,100
Exactly that.
602
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:20,260
Tomorrow.
603
00:46:20,620 --> 00:46:21,620
Overslept?
604
00:46:23,020 --> 00:46:24,060
And if so.
605
00:46:24,340 --> 00:46:25,500
Today of all days?
606
00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:28,140
What is supposed to happen?
607
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:31,460
Today says for the first time
a survivor.
608
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:34,900
Oh, damn! Shit!
609
00:47:41,780 --> 00:47:44,340
These are the facts.
That can't be true.
610
00:47:44,620 --> 00:47:47,340
Because you are French
heard as a witness,
611
00:47:47,620 --> 00:47:49,540
Do you no longer need the Polish woman?
612
00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:52,060
You should testify
but not about that,
613
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:54,580
what the women in the concentration camps
happened.
614
00:47:54,820 --> 00:47:57,180
The topic
has been dealt with for the court.
615
00:47:57,420 --> 00:48:00,860
She probably won't
experienced the same thing as me.
616
00:48:01,140 --> 00:48:02,100
That's cynical.
617
00:48:04,340 --> 00:48:06,180
I can't change that.
618
00:48:06,620 --> 00:48:09,340
And you should
just accept.
619
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:11,540
You can find me at the bar.
620
00:48:16,580 --> 00:48:21,100
621
00:48:25,180 --> 00:48:26,140
Can I?
622
00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:41,740
Where has your colleague gone?
623
00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:43,580
Uh, to the bar.
624
00:48:44,660 --> 00:48:45,900
Needs distraction.
625
00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:55,420
Do you have the statement?
belongs to the French woman?
626
00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:56,500
Clear.
627
00:48:57,340 --> 00:48:58,940
And what did she say?
628
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:07,180
Difficult to reproduce.
629
00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:12,620
The court
it was apparently sufficient.
630
00:49:13,180 --> 00:49:16,580
Millions have died
and one witness is enough.
631
00:49:18,620 --> 00:49:20,300
This is unbelievable.
632
00:49:24,740 --> 00:49:27,900
If you testify,
I will report about it.
633
00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:29,060
Promised.
634
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:35,660
635
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:41,300
I used to love dancing.
636
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:43,860
You too?
637
00:49:45,020 --> 00:49:47,340
Where exactly was I supposed to dance?
638
00:49:48,380 --> 00:49:50,260
In a labor camp or a concentration camp?
639
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:51,740
Excuse me.
640
00:49:52,340 --> 00:49:53,300
Nonsense.
641
00:49:59,620 --> 00:50:01,180
Maybe it will come.
642
00:50:01,980 --> 00:50:03,140
Dancing, I mean.
643
00:50:05,860 --> 00:50:06,820
Certainly.
644
00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:09,660
Naturally.
645
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:10,820
You will dance.
646
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,100
And you will fall in love.
647
00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:20,740
You will dance again too.
648
00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:26,340
649
00:50:40,420 --> 00:50:43,060
I'll never dance again -
without him.
650
00:50:47,220 --> 00:50:51,580
If you keep it up, I can
Open a bakery soon.
651
00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:06,420
My God.
652
00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:07,460
Is for you.
653
00:51:08,380 --> 00:51:09,420
Custom made.
654
00:51:12,660 --> 00:51:14,900
Unfortunately, gold and precious stones were out.
655
00:51:15,180 --> 00:51:18,140
This is the most beautiful jewelry,
that I have ever seen.
656
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:20,380
So that you always think of me.
657
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:28,940
That was basically his engagement ring,
I think.
658
00:51:29,260 --> 00:51:32,420
It is made of wires,
the one from the cockpit
659
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:37,580
from a British aircraft,
that the prisoners had to dismantle.
660
00:51:44,860 --> 00:51:48,220
This ring has always been for us
a kind of souvenir.
661
00:51:48,820 --> 00:51:53,940
A symbol of their love, their devotion
and this incredible story
662
00:51:54,220 --> 00:51:59,340
of two prisoners in Auschwitz,
who fate has separated.
663
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:20,140
I have it in storage
never seen again.
664
00:52:22,060 --> 00:52:25,340
He was gone
from one day to the next.
665
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:29,340
My father has the warehouse
666
00:52:29,620 --> 00:52:33,660
on one of the infamous ones
Death marches left at the end of 1944.
667
00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:39,300
My mother
had no chance to find out
668
00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:41,140
what had happened to him.
669
00:52:47,740 --> 00:52:49,220
'Sorry, sorry.
670
00:52:53,860 --> 00:52:55,100
Serious! Serious!
671
00:52:56,260 --> 00:53:00,380
The Russkis want to talk to you.
What? How come? No idea.
672
00:53:00,620 --> 00:53:01,580
Which of them?
673
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:04,660
General Rudenko himself.
Wow.
674
00:53:04,940 --> 00:53:08,620
The Soviet chief prosecutor
is basically a communist too.
675
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:11,260
About the
Our readers don't want to know anything.
676
00:53:11,540 --> 00:53:13,300
I'm still interested in him.
677
00:53:13,540 --> 00:53:16,420
Call his office later, okay?
Thanks!
678
00:53:18,860 --> 00:53:19,860
*knock*
679
00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:29,380
May I ask?
680
00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:40,060
681
00:53:43,580 --> 00:53:44,660
*knock*
682
00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:47,100
Not today.
683
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:16,460
Good day.
684
00:54:18,220 --> 00:54:19,820
Please take a seat.
685
00:54:29,020 --> 00:54:30,020
Thanks.
686
00:54:35,780 --> 00:54:36,780
Thank you.
687
00:54:45,740 --> 00:54:47,780
I read every one of your articles.
688
00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:56,940
They are very good.
689
00:54:57,820 --> 00:54:58,780
Thanks.
690
00:54:59,060 --> 00:55:00,460
They were in Auschwitz.
691
00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:03,460
Monowitz,
if I am correctly informed.
692
00:55:03,740 --> 00:55:04,900
Yes, you are.
693
00:55:05,820 --> 00:55:10,180
You have been a caregiver for a long time
worked in the infirmary.
694
00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:17,620
Can you give us something?
report on Josef Mengele?
695
00:55:17,860 --> 00:55:19,660
About his human experiments?
696
00:55:21,820 --> 00:55:22,780
Yes.
697
00:55:27,060 --> 00:55:28,060
Can I.
698
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:30,940
Very important:
699
00:55:31,780 --> 00:55:34,460
If they come right away,
be invisible.
700
00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:38,380
Avoid all eye contact.
701
00:55:38,660 --> 00:55:40,940
Never get in the way.
Don't speak to her.
702
00:55:41,220 --> 00:55:42,020
Understood.
703
00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:45,020
A wrong word,
a wrong look,
704
00:55:45,260 --> 00:55:46,500
and it hits the gas.
705
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:00,060
Useful.
706
00:56:04,620 --> 00:56:07,020
Then let's do it, gentlemen.
707
00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:17,220
You never know
how they feel afterwards.
708
00:56:17,860 --> 00:56:19,860
What happens to the women?
709
00:56:21,340 --> 00:56:24,420
They were for medical
Experiments used.
710
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:27,060
And the person
which she carried out
711
00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:28,300
was Dr. Mengele.
712
00:56:28,980 --> 00:56:31,620
There were still
two or three other doctors.
713
00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:35,220
And our job was to
to bring the women in
714
00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:38,620
to disappear
and bring them out later.
715
00:56:39,820 --> 00:56:42,580
They were experiments
with electric shocks.
716
00:56:44,060 --> 00:56:45,100
Electric shocks.
717
00:56:45,780 --> 00:56:49,180
They have experiments
done with electric shocks?
718
00:56:51,420 --> 00:56:52,620
With what aim?
719
00:56:57,260 --> 00:56:58,500
I don't know it.
720
00:56:59,220 --> 00:57:00,180
Naturally.
721
00:57:00,420 --> 00:57:01,340
Excuse me.
722
00:57:01,620 --> 00:57:02,980
Please continue.
723
00:57:05,260 --> 00:57:08,260
Maybe we have the cans
increased too quickly.
724
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:10,740
Or we went too high.
725
00:57:10,980 --> 00:57:13,060
We'll continue in the afternoon.
726
00:57:13,340 --> 00:57:15,940
Leave new material
provide.
727
00:57:26,660 --> 00:57:27,620
They are dead.
728
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:29,460
Not us.
729
00:57:32,740 --> 00:57:33,700
Not yet.
730
00:57:54,020 --> 00:57:57,420
Can you imagine
to testify as a witness?
731
00:58:00,580 --> 00:58:04,060
So no interview
but you should testify as a witness?
732
00:58:04,340 --> 00:58:05,180
Yes.
733
00:58:05,420 --> 00:58:06,380
Thanks.
734
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:09,100
You let me know when.
735
00:58:09,380 --> 00:58:13,380
"DANA reporter becomes a witness
at the Nuremberg Military Tribunal."
736
00:58:16,260 --> 00:58:18,180
Not a bad headline.
737
00:58:18,460 --> 00:58:20,100
You're going to be famous, kid.
738
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:22,820
I can do without it.
Nonsense.
739
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:25,540
You'll never get a chance like that again.
740
00:58:29,660 --> 00:58:32,140
So, you wanted to finish the story?
741
00:58:33,140 --> 00:58:34,460
What happened next?
742
00:58:35,380 --> 00:58:36,380
With Diana.
743
00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:38,220
With Diana?
744
00:58:40,980 --> 00:58:42,860
There was this one girl
745
00:58:43,180 --> 00:58:45,580
that I never
I will really never forget.
746
00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:46,660
Diana.
747
00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:49,900
She was with a transport
came from Hungary.
748
00:58:50,180 --> 00:58:54,340
Her parents and siblings were
gassed immediately after arrival.
749
00:58:54,620 --> 00:58:58,220
She had to take the children
that were taken from their mothers,
750
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:00,020
lead into the gas chamber.
751
00:59:02,460 --> 00:59:04,180
This was too much for her.
752
00:59:04,420 --> 00:59:06,420
She's lost her mind.
753
00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:10,500
But she was young
and physically healthy.
754
00:59:12,420 --> 00:59:16,300
For Mengele's human experiments
so it was still enough.
755
00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:29,220
756
00:59:56,260 --> 00:59:58,460
We loaded them onto the truck
757
00:59:58,740 --> 01:00:02,260
and they were immediately
taken to Birkenau and gassed.
758
01:00:04,980 --> 01:00:07,180
This was everyday life in Auschwitz.
759
01:00:09,020 --> 01:00:12,300
* I confess in the sense
not guilty of the charge. *
760
01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:13,620
* Not guilty. *
761
01:00:14,780 --> 01:00:16,860
* Not guilty. - Not guilty. *
762
01:00:17,140 --> 01:00:17,940
* No! *
763
01:00:28,420 --> 01:00:31,580
I am the former
Auschwitz inmate 104995.
764
01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:36,580
I am a careless mistake
in their system,
765
01:00:36,860 --> 01:00:38,300
because I survived.
766
01:00:41,620 --> 01:00:44,020
Six million Jews
were murdered.
767
01:00:45,460 --> 01:00:47,980
It's a miracle that I'm sitting here.
768
01:00:48,340 --> 01:00:49,860
I don't know why.
769
01:00:50,780 --> 01:00:53,020
Damn luck, nothing more.
770
01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:57,820
In the right place at the right time.
771
01:00:58,060 --> 01:00:58,860
Calligraphy.
772
01:01:00,420 --> 01:01:02,940
A little more to eat
back then.
773
01:01:03,580 --> 01:01:05,700
That's what kept us alive.
774
01:01:06,460 --> 01:01:08,220
And above all the desire
775
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:11,460
that someone has to tell
what happened.
776
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:14,540
It must never be forgotten.
777
01:01:16,020 --> 01:01:17,460
And I wanted to live!
778
01:01:18,980 --> 01:01:22,500
As best as possible
under these circumstances.
779
01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:26,700
Not that easy.
780
01:01:34,740 --> 01:01:37,380
I would really like you
as witnesses.
781
01:01:37,660 --> 01:01:39,540
But why? You are German.
782
01:01:39,820 --> 01:01:41,180
But I... I know.
783
01:01:41,420 --> 01:01:43,420
But my hands are tied.
784
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:46,740
Comrade Stalin decreed
that not a German
785
01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:50,660
for our country before this court
will raise his voice.
786
01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:52,380
I'm sorry.
787
01:01:54,820 --> 01:01:58,180
As a token of our gratitude
and appreciation
788
01:01:58,460 --> 01:02:01,660
I would like to you
hand something over as an apology.
789
01:02:02,180 --> 01:02:04,580
A copy of our indictment.
790
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:06,340
All the best.
791
01:02:08,340 --> 01:02:09,300
Thanks.
792
01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:14,180
I can't believe it.
793
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:17,780
I have no chance,
to testify as a witness.
794
01:02:18,060 --> 01:02:19,140
You are German.
795
01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:22,260
Crime, the Nazis
have committed against their own people,
796
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:24,100
are not discussed here.
797
01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:27,140
With the German Jews
it all started!
798
01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:29,740
That's not what this is about.
But it should.
799
01:02:30,020 --> 01:02:32,140
We don't matter to the world,
again.
800
01:02:32,380 --> 01:02:33,780
Seriously... It's true.
801
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:36,420
It was like that, it is like that
and will stay that way.
802
01:02:36,660 --> 01:02:39,540
Everyone knew it
nobody helped us.
803
01:02:39,820 --> 01:02:41,380
And anyway, what do you want?
804
01:02:41,660 --> 01:02:44,180
You had your visa
and you were safe.
805
01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:49,060
In the spring of 1939,
before the war,
806
01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:52,420
still existed
the opportunity to leave.
807
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:57,180
We got from the US Consulate
get a number,
808
01:02:57,420 --> 01:03:01,260
with which I went to the United States
States could have entered.
809
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:04,060
My number
would only be three years later,
810
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:06,860
in the spring of 1942,
it was my turn.
811
01:03:08,820 --> 01:03:10,900
But by then it was already too late.
812
01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:20,500
My father later found out:
813
01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:25,100
The United States alone
would have around 100,000 visas by 1942
814
01:03:25,340 --> 01:03:28,140
for Jewish refugees
can exhibit.
815
01:03:28,900 --> 01:03:33,100
But anti-Semites in Roosevelts
Cabinet blocked this,
816
01:03:33,340 --> 01:03:35,460
and no one stopped them.
817
01:03:36,580 --> 01:03:37,980
Yes, I was lucky.
818
01:03:40,540 --> 01:03:41,860
Not my parents.
819
01:03:43,380 --> 01:03:46,420
you believed
they are safe in Vienna.
820
01:03:49,140 --> 01:03:52,500
From whining they become
not alive again either.
821
01:03:52,780 --> 01:03:56,540
We have to look forward,
so forget about the witness
822
01:03:56,820 --> 01:03:59,180
and concentrate
on your work.
823
01:04:05,140 --> 01:04:07,660
Then there was
this special moment:
824
01:04:08,220 --> 01:04:12,860
The Russian prosecution has a film
presented with the name Auschwitz.
825
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:16,420
The room became dark,
and then there was Auschwitz.
826
01:04:17,660 --> 01:04:19,260
Where I've been.
827
01:04:27,620 --> 01:04:32,060
828
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:08,100
And there they sit and laugh.
829
01:05:08,380 --> 01:05:10,180
They laughed, grinned.
830
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:13,180
I've never forgotten that.
831
01:05:19,940 --> 01:05:20,900
Well, little one?
832
01:05:23,620 --> 01:05:24,620
What is that?
833
01:05:24,860 --> 01:05:26,820
The Russian indictment.
834
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:28,940
Gift from Roman Rudenko.
835
01:05:29,220 --> 01:05:29,980
Anyway.
836
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:32,500
Make something of it.
837
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:47,700
There is a book in front of me.
838
01:05:48,460 --> 01:05:49,500
A picture book.
839
01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:51,980
But not for small children.
840
01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:55,980
A book in Russian
bears a heading.
841
01:05:56,260 --> 01:05:58,380
There are two words in the middle:
842
01:05:58,900 --> 01:06:00,020
Auschwitz camp.
843
01:06:01,180 --> 01:06:04,260
The book has no introduction
and very little text.
844
01:06:04,540 --> 01:06:08,340
It's a picture book, but
a picture book of reality.
845
01:06:08,620 --> 01:06:09,820
It's very simple
846
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:12,500
USSR evidence
Number so and so much.
847
01:06:12,740 --> 01:06:15,740
The Russian prosecutor
who submits it to the court,
848
01:06:16,020 --> 01:06:18,140
doesn't say much about it.
849
01:06:19,340 --> 01:06:23,020
These pictures speak of life,
or rather, about dying
850
01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:26,180
of the prisoners
the Auschwitz concentration camp.
851
01:06:26,460 --> 01:06:30,060
It was in its magnitude
the largest of all German concentration camps.
852
01:06:33,420 --> 01:06:36,820
Five kilometers from Auschwitz
away was Birkenau.
853
01:06:37,060 --> 01:06:41,300
A nice name to go by
imagines the smell of birch trees,
854
01:06:41,580 --> 01:06:43,660
a clearing
and a small village.
855
01:06:43,940 --> 01:06:46,740
But that wasn't Birkenau,
that I mean.
856
01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:49,300
This Birkenau
looked a little different.
857
01:06:49,580 --> 01:06:52,740
At the end of the camp
the chimneys rose into the air,
858
01:06:53,020 --> 01:06:54,380
who smoked constantly.
859
01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:58,820
These were the giant crematoriums
and the giant gas chambers
860
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:00,980
who worked day and night.
861
01:07:02,780 --> 01:07:05,380
He can write,
the Jewish boy.
862
01:07:05,660 --> 01:07:06,540
Yes, of course.
863
01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:11,180
His articles even print
foreign newspapers.
864
01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:13,900
The whole world reads,
what he writes.
865
01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:17,660
You can say that.
866
01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:25,140
I have always been a friend of the Jews.
867
01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:29,780
Put your efforts into it, Stahmer,
so that he finally agrees.
868
01:07:31,700 --> 01:07:32,860
We'll see.
869
01:07:34,380 --> 01:07:35,700
"I'll keep turning the pages
870
01:07:35,980 --> 01:07:39,100
and see a picture,
on which there is a large blackboard.
871
01:07:39,380 --> 01:07:42,940
It hung in the office
of the Auschwitz Monowitz camp.
872
01:07:43,220 --> 01:07:46,860
There were daily entrances to it
and departures written down,
873
01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:49,100
because the status changed daily.
874
01:07:49,380 --> 01:07:52,940
The board has the date
dated January 16, 1945,
875
01:07:53,780 --> 01:07:57,180
the last day,
where the board was used."
876
01:07:57,460 --> 01:08:01,100
"That day
the bearing strength was 10,224
877
01:08:01,620 --> 01:08:05,780
and marched the next day
9,000 prisoners from Auschwitz.
878
01:08:06,020 --> 01:08:09,620
The rest stayed behind.
They could no longer march.
879
01:08:10,540 --> 01:08:13,580
After three days of marching
and five days transport
880
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:17,780
in an open carriage in a snow flurry
we arrived in Buchenwald.
881
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:20,700
There were a little less than 4,000 of us."
882
01:08:24,140 --> 01:08:28,220
Göring and the others want
didn't know anything about any of this.
883
01:08:28,460 --> 01:08:29,300
They deny.
884
01:08:29,540 --> 01:08:30,700
Then as now.
885
01:08:30,980 --> 01:08:34,460
* (Original sound) I have never,
on no person *
886
01:08:34,900 --> 01:08:38,340
* and at no time,
ordered a murder. *
887
01:08:39,020 --> 01:08:43,140
* I also don't have anything else
Cruelties ordered *
888
01:08:43,900 --> 01:08:48,860
* or tolerated where I have the power
and had the knowledge, *
889
01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:51,260
* to prevent such. *
890
01:08:53,980 --> 01:08:55,540
"The book is over.
891
01:08:56,540 --> 01:08:59,900
It's in front of me again.
I take it in my hand.
892
01:09:00,380 --> 01:09:01,700
It is very light.
893
01:09:01,980 --> 01:09:05,340
It doesn't weigh much,
but today, in the Nuremberg Trials,
894
01:09:05,620 --> 01:09:10,140
where the bill will be paid
"It's supposed to weigh very, very heavy."
895
01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:23,020
Maybe you could have...
896
01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:25,820
... short process
should do with them.
897
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:28,060
I often have that thought too.
898
01:09:28,980 --> 01:09:29,940
But?
899
01:09:30,420 --> 01:09:33,220
If I Goering
see in the courtroom...
900
01:09:34,580 --> 01:09:38,100
The way he sits there, the way he laughs,
That makes me think of revenge.
901
01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:39,180
And then?
902
01:09:39,580 --> 01:09:41,580
Then I take a closer look.
903
01:09:44,260 --> 01:09:45,540
And then I think,
904
01:09:45,820 --> 01:09:48,300
that's easy
everyone is just afraid.
905
01:09:50,780 --> 01:09:52,020
Fear form Gallows.
906
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:58,900
I wish you,
that you can testify.
907
01:09:59,820 --> 01:10:01,700
Just so you can see this,
908
01:10:02,620 --> 01:10:05,580
how small and pathetic
which are all now.
909
01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:09,660
Prost.
910
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:31,300
911
01:10:35,340 --> 01:10:36,300
Mr Michel.
912
01:10:36,660 --> 01:10:37,620
I know.
913
01:10:40,540 --> 01:10:43,580
You need an answer.
Yes, I ask for it.
914
01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:45,500
I'll do it.
915
01:10:47,340 --> 01:10:48,300
Secure?
916
01:10:48,580 --> 01:10:49,380
Yes.
917
01:10:50,220 --> 01:10:51,180
Certainly?
918
01:10:51,460 --> 01:10:52,300
Yes.
919
01:10:56,740 --> 01:10:57,660
Good.
920
01:11:00,660 --> 01:11:01,620
When?
921
01:11:03,460 --> 01:11:05,860
Let's say... in an hour?
922
01:11:08,860 --> 01:11:09,820
Hm.
923
01:11:11,020 --> 01:11:12,220
I'll pick you up.
924
01:11:24,420 --> 01:11:27,580
I believe,
my father wanted to test himself,
925
01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:31,780
whether he this terrible man
can look into your eyes and say:
926
01:11:32,060 --> 01:11:33,820
Look, I survived.
927
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:37,780
But he would prefer to have it
yelled at and asked: Why?
928
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:38,860
I know that.
929
01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:50,380
930
01:12:00,740 --> 01:12:01,700
One moment.
931
01:12:03,780 --> 01:12:04,940
One more thing.
932
01:12:05,780 --> 01:12:07,980
This meeting
never took place.
933
01:12:08,260 --> 01:12:10,100
You won't tell anyone about this.
934
01:12:10,340 --> 01:12:13,180
Not a single line
write about it.
935
01:12:13,420 --> 01:12:15,060
Did you understand that?
936
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:16,140
Understood.
937
01:12:16,820 --> 01:12:17,820
Good.
938
01:12:21,180 --> 01:12:22,140
OK.
939
01:12:30,900 --> 01:12:32,020
Mr. Michel.
940
01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:57,140
(heartbeat gets louder)
941
01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:04,660
Open up.
942
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:06,060
Open the door.
943
01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:14,260
I don't know
how should I explain it?
944
01:13:14,540 --> 01:13:16,420
I couldn't stand it.
945
01:13:16,700 --> 01:13:18,020
I was 23 years old.
946
01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:21,220
I was in the camps
and I was now a reporter.
947
01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:23,500
But I couldn't bear it,
948
01:13:23,740 --> 01:13:26,260
with Hermann Göring
to be in a cell.
949
01:13:26,500 --> 01:13:28,500
And he wants to shake my hand.
950
01:13:32,220 --> 01:13:35,100
I had the feeling
to do the right thing.
951
01:13:35,380 --> 01:13:38,780
I've never regretted it,
that I didn't say anything.
952
01:13:39,980 --> 01:13:43,140
It would have worked for me
felt humiliating,
953
01:13:43,460 --> 01:13:45,380
to even speak to him.
954
01:13:45,820 --> 01:13:48,380
Besides, I would have
have to be polite,
955
01:13:48,660 --> 01:13:51,580
after Stahmer me especially
brought there.
956
01:13:51,860 --> 01:13:55,020
But the fact
that I was in this cell:
957
01:13:56,340 --> 01:14:00,020
This moment has happened
burned into my memory
958
01:14:00,700 --> 01:14:02,940
and I will never forget him.
959
01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:15,260
*knock*
960
01:14:18,020 --> 01:14:19,060
It's your turn.
961
01:14:25,500 --> 01:14:28,740
I wouldn't have thought
that it still happens.
962
01:14:56,660 --> 01:14:58,140
Severyna Szmaglewska.
963
01:15:33,820 --> 01:15:37,060
In the film footage,
which have been preserved,
964
01:15:37,340 --> 01:15:41,620
she addresses him directly
Prosecutor who asks the questions.
965
01:15:41,860 --> 01:15:43,540
She speaks with the voice,
966
01:15:43,820 --> 01:15:46,860
which they for themselves
created in her book.
967
01:15:49,860 --> 01:15:53,260
The children became the mothers
taken away immediately.
968
01:16:17,020 --> 01:16:19,180
The presence of the accused
969
01:16:19,420 --> 01:16:22,300
was for my mother
just difficult to bear.
970
01:16:22,580 --> 01:16:26,260
I think that was the main thing
because of their strange behavior.
971
01:16:26,660 --> 01:16:31,300
Some pretended
not listening or sleeping.
972
01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:39,860
At the beginning of 1943, when they began
to tattoo the prisoners,
973
01:16:40,140 --> 01:16:43,780
were the children born in the concentration camp
also tattooed.
974
01:16:45,780 --> 01:16:48,460
According to this film excerpt
to judge,
975
01:16:48,740 --> 01:16:50,380
she was very controlled.
976
01:16:50,660 --> 01:16:54,340
She didn't just speak for herself,
but also for women,
977
01:16:54,620 --> 01:16:57,860
who find themselves in a hopeless situation
have found,
978
01:16:58,140 --> 01:17:01,860
being pregnant in the camp
and having to give birth to children.
979
01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:06,620
These children
were placed in special blocks
980
01:17:06,900 --> 01:17:11,260
and after a few weeks, sometimes
a month, taken away from the concentration camp.
981
01:17:11,660 --> 01:17:15,460
We could never determine
where they were taken.
982
01:17:15,740 --> 01:17:18,540
All the time,
in which the concentration camp existed,
983
01:17:18,820 --> 01:17:20,500
they were transported away.
984
01:17:20,780 --> 01:17:23,300
That is,
in 1943 and 1944.
985
01:17:25,180 --> 01:17:28,900
The last children's transport
took place in January 1945.
986
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:32,540
Until today
is not known,
987
01:17:32,820 --> 01:17:36,180
whether these children
stayed alive or not.
988
01:17:36,660 --> 01:17:39,860
In the name of all women,
who became mothers in the concentration camp,
989
01:17:40,140 --> 01:17:42,300
I want today
the Germans ask:
990
01:17:42,580 --> 01:17:43,940
Where are these children?
991
01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:50,980
She wanted the world to know
what really happened.
992
01:17:51,220 --> 01:17:55,100
She wanted to be as precise as possible
and testify without further ado.
993
01:18:06,180 --> 01:18:07,180
Yes.
994
01:18:08,020 --> 01:18:10,660
I was working
very close to the railway track,
995
01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:12,460
that led to the crematorium.
996
01:18:12,740 --> 01:18:16,820
From there I could see how
the transports were delivered.
997
01:18:17,220 --> 01:18:20,940
The children were before
Crematorium separated from parents
998
01:18:21,220 --> 01:18:23,820
and separately
taken to the gas chambers.
999
01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:30,340
At the time when most Jews
were destroyed in gas chambers,
1000
01:18:30,620 --> 01:18:32,020
an order was issued:
1001
01:18:32,260 --> 01:18:35,060
The children should
into the ovens of the crematorium
1002
01:18:35,340 --> 01:18:39,020
and throw near ditches,
without gassing them beforehand.
1003
01:18:52,260 --> 01:18:54,820
The children
were thrown in alive.
1004
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:59,060
The screaming of the children
could be heard throughout the camp.
1005
01:19:20,860 --> 01:19:22,020
That was important.
1006
01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:23,100
Yes...
1007
01:19:24,220 --> 01:19:26,260
You can be proud of yourself.
1008
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:28,380
I feel
as if I had failed.
1009
01:19:28,660 --> 01:19:30,140
No, absolutely not.
1010
01:19:30,980 --> 01:19:34,300
There's so much more,
what the world needs to hear.
1011
01:19:34,580 --> 01:19:37,060
What you said
got everyone upset.
1012
01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:39,420
It didn't feel like that.
1013
01:19:43,140 --> 01:19:45,700
It will be tomorrow
be in the newspaper.
1014
01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:48,660
Even with your name. Nonsense.
1015
01:20:01,220 --> 01:20:02,820
"Where are our children?
1016
01:20:04,140 --> 01:20:07,060
In the name of women,
who became mothers in the concentration camp,
1017
01:20:07,340 --> 01:20:09,220
I want that
the Germans ask.
1018
01:20:09,500 --> 01:20:12,820
The Polish witness shouted
Seweryna Szmaglowska..."
1019
01:20:14,340 --> 01:20:15,300
Szmaglowska?
1020
01:20:15,980 --> 01:20:17,500
My name is Szmaglewska.
1021
01:20:17,940 --> 01:20:18,900
What?
1022
01:20:26,260 --> 01:20:28,860
Even if that
no one will ever read:
1023
01:20:29,740 --> 01:20:30,740
Thank you very much.
1024
01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:32,460
Thank you.
1025
01:20:47,340 --> 01:20:48,740
What are you doing now?
1026
01:20:49,020 --> 01:20:50,340
I want to go home.
1027
01:20:51,180 --> 01:20:55,540
I won't stay a day longer
Germany as absolutely necessary.
1028
01:20:55,900 --> 01:20:56,900
And you?
1029
01:20:59,740 --> 01:21:01,820
I don't know exactly yet.
1030
01:21:02,380 --> 01:21:04,980
Maybe I'll work here
as a journalist.
1031
01:21:05,260 --> 01:21:06,860
As a famous journalist.
1032
01:21:08,020 --> 01:21:08,980
It would be nice.
1033
01:21:11,980 --> 01:21:13,980
Or I'll go to Palestine.
1034
01:21:15,860 --> 01:21:18,540
Preferably
I would live in the USA.
1035
01:21:19,180 --> 01:21:20,500
The American Dream?
1036
01:21:21,420 --> 01:21:23,100
Yes, something like that.
1037
01:21:24,380 --> 01:21:25,340
Why not?
1038
01:21:28,940 --> 01:21:29,900
Well then.
1039
01:21:37,420 --> 01:21:38,420
Good luck.
1040
01:21:38,940 --> 01:21:39,900
To you too.
1041
01:22:10,140 --> 01:22:14,260
All I can do is try
not to be afraid of them anymore.
1042
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:16,740
These are such pitiful characters.
1043
01:22:25,500 --> 01:22:28,100
My father
was during transport
1044
01:22:28,380 --> 01:22:30,180
liberated by the Americans.
1045
01:22:30,460 --> 01:22:31,500
He had survived.
1046
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:35,420
But he didn't know
what happened to my mother.
1047
01:22:36,780 --> 01:22:41,300
It wasn't until much later that he came across one
German newspaper in her name,
1048
01:22:41,580 --> 01:22:44,580
in a report
about the Nuremberg trials.
1049
01:22:48,820 --> 01:22:51,620
When he realized
that she is still alive,
1050
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:52,940
was clear to him:
1051
01:22:53,180 --> 01:22:56,340
He would travel to Nuremberg,
to find them.
1052
01:23:06,740 --> 01:23:11,060
with strings
1053
01:23:24,180 --> 01:23:27,100
They have your name
misspelled.
1054
01:23:28,420 --> 01:23:29,660
That doesn't matter.
1055
01:23:29,940 --> 01:23:32,740
Doesn't matter at all.
It doesn't matter!
1056
01:23:47,540 --> 01:23:49,820
1057
01:24:08,580 --> 01:24:12,900
It's hard for me to say
whether the experiences in Auschwitz
1058
01:24:13,500 --> 01:24:17,700
a shadow on later life
thrown to my mother.
1059
01:24:20,020 --> 01:24:22,700
But I think so,
that much of what
1060
01:24:22,940 --> 01:24:24,940
what burdened her later...
1061
01:24:25,220 --> 01:24:29,220
Her restlessness and years later too
the problematic handling
1062
01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:31,100
with sedatives.
1063
01:24:31,540 --> 01:24:33,140
... had to do with it.
1064
01:24:34,220 --> 01:24:37,660
I know that she
suffered from nightmares.
1065
01:24:38,500 --> 01:24:39,740
And I also know:
1066
01:24:40,340 --> 01:24:44,540
It was one for her
incredibly difficult decision
1067
01:24:45,260 --> 01:24:48,780
me and my brother
to take with you to Auschwitz.
1068
01:24:51,020 --> 01:24:53,940
She didn't really want that,
but she found
1069
01:24:54,260 --> 01:24:58,820
that it would be better this way than with us
to send the school class there.
1070
01:25:00,420 --> 01:25:04,580
I'm sure
that it put a lot of stress on her.
1071
01:25:40,580 --> 01:25:43,780
The judgments
were carried out in the fall of 1946,
1072
01:25:44,580 --> 01:25:47,140
but I wasn't there anymore.
1073
01:25:50,820 --> 01:25:54,940
I also asked myself
why he didn't stay until the end.
1074
01:25:55,180 --> 01:25:57,780
He probably wanted to finally
live his life.
1075
01:26:16,340 --> 01:26:18,020
I had the feeling...
1076
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:21,220
I hope
That doesn't sound presumptuous.
1077
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:23,860
... I speak for all those
1078
01:26:24,140 --> 01:26:27,340
those in Auschwitz
died in my arms.
1079
01:26:28,140 --> 01:26:31,620
You should have known
that this day exists:
1080
01:26:32,820 --> 01:26:34,620
The Day of Justice.
1081
01:27:12,740 --> 01:27:14,500
It's just so important:
1082
01:27:14,780 --> 01:27:17,980
The world, especially young people,
must understand
1083
01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:22,460
what harm can arise,
when people get too much power.
1084
01:27:23,740 --> 01:27:27,340
I hope I continue
can talk about it.
1085
01:27:27,860 --> 01:27:31,940
It's a story,
which absolutely needs to be told.
1086
01:27:48,980 --> 01:27:50,540
*Door closes*
1087
01:28:35,660 --> 01:28:37,820
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